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beserk · May 20, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57

Hi guys I’m new to this forum but not to the game. Note I have Prophecies and EOTN only

[earth shaker] [pulverizing smash] [you move like a dwarf] [crude swing] [frenzy] [rush] [for great justice] [resurrection signet]

3 tactics 12 str 15 hammer mastery

All suggestions are welcomed it’s all so I can learn.

Thanks in advance.

Lynyrd Skynyrd · May 20, 2008, 08:01 PM // 20:01

Berserker's Stance -> Frenzy, possibly the Dwarven skill that increases attack rates.
Sprint -> Rush.
Backbreaker -> Earthshaker

(This is assuming you didn't fcuk up and this is for PvE, if it's for PvE... you're simply doing it wrong.)

ALSO: DO NOT USE 15 HAMMER MASTERY.

natural_Causes · May 20, 2008, 08:03 PM // 20:03

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Originally Posted by Lynyrd Skynyrd

Berserker's Stance -> Flail.
Sprint -> Rush.
Rez Signet -> Death Pact Signet
Backbreaker -> Earthshaker
Mighty Blow -> Whirlwind Attack

(This is assuming you didn't fcuk up and this is for PvE, if it's for PvE... you're simply doing it wrong.)

He only has Prophecies.

Lynyrd Skynyrd · May 20, 2008, 08:06 PM // 20:06

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Originally Posted by natural_Causes

He only has Prophecies.

Hence my edit.

ALSO: DO NOT USE 15 HAMMER MASTERY.

beserk · May 20, 2008, 08:07 PM // 20:07

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Originally Posted by Lynyrd Skynyrd

Berserker's Stance -> Frenzy, possibly the Dwarven skill that increases attack rates.
Sprint -> Rush.
Backbreaker -> Earthshaker

(This is assuming you didn't fcuk up and this is for PvE, if it's for PvE... you're simply doing it wrong.)

I dont use rush because i dont have any skill that would give me adrenliane outside of combat.

As for earthshaker backbreaker does the samething just not AOE, but it does alot more damage than earthshaker...which i want...more dmg.

Btw whats wrong with 15 hammer mastery? I assumed the rank is 0 12 15 for a reason on most skills?

Lynyrd Skynyrd · May 20, 2008, 08:10 PM // 20:10

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Originally Posted by beserk

I dont use rush because i dont have any skill that would give me adrenliane outside of combat.

As for earthshaker backbreaker does the samething just not AOE, but it does alot more damage tha earthshaker...which i want...more dmg.

Btw whats wrong with 15 hammer mastery? I assumed the rank is 0 12 15 for a reason on most skills?

Earthshaker can be used more often, which allows more recycling of your AoE knockdown. If you want damage, go Axe.

Rank 15 is stupid because you're trading off 35 hp for minimal damage. Your job as a Warrior is to deal big damage. You can't deal big damage whilst dead.

You use Rush to cancel your Frenzy, not to rush into battle before your Monks recover from the last fight. Guild Wars is a team game, not a game that involves you charging in, dying, blaming it on the Monks, and leaving.

Murmel · May 20, 2008, 08:10 PM // 20:10

I think that build is preety good actually (have not seen it in action though). Prolly one of the better proph only warrior builds I've seen...

Anyway, I'd say Rush instead of Sprint. (I don't know how to show icons on the forum sorry...)
And perhaps Frenzy instead of Berserker Stance? Then use Rush as a cancel stance. I chosed Frenzy since warriors generaly don't get attacked as much as casters in PvE (Atleast I don't get attacked so much

)

Just a thought....
Plz don't flame me for bad idéas :'(

Edit: ops, lot'sa people posted beofre me hehe...

Lynyrd Skynyrd · May 20, 2008, 08:12 PM // 20:12

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Originally Posted by Murmel

Plz don't flame me for bad idéas :'(

You're correct, have no fear.

Murmel · May 20, 2008, 08:16 PM // 20:16

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Originally Posted by Lynyrd Skynyrd

You're correct, have no fear.

Finally I got something right hehe

beserk · May 20, 2008, 08:21 PM // 20:21

Thanks for the info, and btw guys is there any EOTN skills i can put in there? as i said im getting it very soon so should i change to another weapon/other skills?

Thanks.

Lynyrd Skynyrd · May 20, 2008, 08:27 PM // 20:27

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Originally Posted by beserk

Thanks for the info, and btw guys is there any EOTN skills i can put in there? as i said im getting it very soon so should i change to another weapon/other skills?

Thanks.

Brawling Headbutt may be worth looking into. I don't use PvE skills, so I can't really help other than that.

beserk · May 20, 2008, 08:47 PM // 20:47

cooll I'll look into it!

Btw seeing as you said 15 is pointless should i get rid of the hammer mastery runes and replace them with +health ones?

Magikarp · May 20, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00

if this is for pve..

12+1+1 hammer mastery
12+1 strength

Earthshaker
Crude Swing
Pulverizing Swing
Beserker Stance
Rush
FGJ!
res or pve skill such as "I am the strongest!" or Feel No Pain... stuff like that.

thats really about as good as it gets for frontlining in PvE as a hammer war with proph and eotn only.

Age · May 20, 2008, 09:07 PM // 21:07

I would use Devastating Hammer and drop berserker stance for something else.

Pyro maniac · May 20, 2008, 09:09 PM // 21:09

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Originally Posted by Lynyrd Skynyrd

Rank 15 is stupid because you're trading off 35 hp for minimal damage. Your job as a Warrior is to deal big damage. You can't deal big damage whilst dead.

15 weapon mastery is fine in PvE
I would recommend using health runes @ last post

[Earth Shaker][Crushing Blow][Mighty Blow][Empty][Frenzy][Rush][For Great Justice][Resurrection Signet]

[Empty] could be any skill, the PvE only skills from gw:en are great for it.

shru · May 20, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16

[build name="proph/GWEN earthshaker" prof=W/any hammermastery=12+1+1 strength=12+1][earth shaker][crude swing][pulverizing smash][you move like a dwarf][frenzy][rush][for great justice][resurrection signet][/build]
try that.

Edit: spent too much time playing around with the BBC, Pyro beat me to the punch with pretty much the exact same build. (although I much prefer pulverizing and crude to crushing and mighty)

Magikarp · May 20, 2008, 09:25 PM // 21:25

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Originally Posted by shru

[build name="proph/GWEN earthshaker" prof=W/any hammermastery=12+1+1 strength=12+1][earth shaker][crude swing][pulverizing smash][you move like a dwarf][frenzy][rush][for great justice][resurrection signet][/build]
try that.

Edit: spent too much time playing around with the BBC, Pyro beat me to the punch with pretty much the exact same build. (although I much prefer pulverizing and crude to crushing and mighty)

this and remove YMLAD! for a less costly utility skill, unless you're confident in your energy control skills for playing a warrior. frenzy is almost a no go unless you micro your heroes, or have a human monk PS or SB you before you take aggro. unfortunately, that leaves you with Berserker or Flurry, in which junky Berserker wins..

also, your runes should be:

+1 hammer master
+1 strength
stonefist
viate or reduce blind rune
best vigor rune you can afford

and with FULL survivors. theres almost no reason ever a warrior should have anything else, unless you play shock axe in pvp, and even then, thats an optional choice..

Pyro maniac · May 20, 2008, 09:26 PM // 21:26

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Originally Posted by shru

Edit: spent too much time playing around with the BBC, Pyro beat me to the punch with pretty much the exact same build. (although I much prefer pulverizing and crude to crushing and mighty)

I prefer crushing, I only use pulverizing if the build is too energy intensive. With YMLAD, it may be better to run pulv yes ...

as for crude, it may be lethal with both frenzy and -40 armor ..

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Originally Posted by Magikarp

frenzy is almost a no go

and with FULL survivors. theres almost no reason ever a warrior should have anything else, unless you play shock axe in pvp, and even then, thats an optional choice..

frenzy is fine, flail may be better, however frenzy still beats BS imo and it makes you better at the game ..

sentinel's is fine as well, +20 (ele) armor on big damage packets > the health gain imo. also the slight less health will attract some more aggro. Aggro control on AL 100 > on AL 60

Tyla · May 20, 2008, 09:40 PM // 21:40

Anything beats Berserker Stance. It's absolutely bad.

[earth shaker][crude swing]["for great justice!"]

After that, you need an IAS. [[drunken master] / [[frenzy] + [[rush].
I myself disagree with Crude Swing and Frenzy. Quiite dangerous.

[[Crushing Blow] / [[pulverizing smash] for Deep Wound.

Stonefist Insignia is a must.

shru · May 20, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52

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Originally Posted by Magikarp

this and remove YMLAD! for a less costly utility skill, unless you're confident in your energy control skills for playing a warrior.

"YMLAD" is not there for spamming purposes, and should be easily managed if used as an anti kite skill or against bosses to get off pulverizing quickly.

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Originally Posted by Pyro maniac

As for crude, it may be lethal with both frenzy and -40 armor

A valid point, but with the IAS of [frenzy] and the AoE KD from [Earth shaker], problems realy should be minimum.

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Originally Posted by Pyro maniac

frenzy is fine, flail may be better, however frenzy still beats BS imo and it makes you better at the game

No NF means no [Flail], which [flail]+[enraging charge] would be the ideal stance set up for any PvE hammer build.

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Originally Posted by Tyla

After that, you need an IAS. [drunken master].

That's another skill I forgot, and most defineately a good choice. That will also free up one more slot for another PvE skill, and completely negates the draw backs discussed in my last quotes.